VIDEO: Brent Ackerson debates Mike O’Connell in County Attorney Race

Watch this debate and make an informed decision May 22, 2018.

The Louisville Forum hosted a debate between Brent Ackerson and Mike O’Connell. The debate for Jefferson County Attorney touches on several key issues such as drug policy, jail over-crowding, the sexual abuse lawsuit brought by minors in the Explorer program and restorative justice. Each candidate provides their vision for the office of County Attorney in Louisville as well as other topics.

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Transcript:

[Music]
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thank you for joining us today my name
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is Tom Vander Rothstein and I serve as
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the president of the Louisville forum we
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meet on the second Wednesday of every
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month at Vincenzo’s restaurant
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Louisville forum org and our topic today
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Democratic Democratic primary debate the
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office of the county attorney is defined
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by two main statutes k RS fifteen point
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seven two five and k RS sixty nine point
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two one zero
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the Commonwealth in state district court
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those include prosecuting a variety of
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charges including the areas of drunk
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driving
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domestic violence traffic shoplifting
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burglary robbery assault drugs and gun
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crimes it frequently involves hearings
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involving bond and or preliminary
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hearings the county attorney also has
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divisions and assistant county attorneys
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in Family Court
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child support juvenile court domestic
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violence and also a course in the DUI
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courts guardianship and mental inquest
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courts the county attorney also
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represents Jefferson County as a civil
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attorney in that represent in the
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coordination they represented 250
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departments of Metro government the
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mayor’s office 26 Metro Council
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representatives numerous boards and
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commissions also is in charge of the
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research ordinance commission with these
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facts is our starting point today I
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would like to introduce our debate panel
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O’Connell and Metro councilman brett
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Ackerson first I will start with mr.
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O’Connell mr. O’Connell has served as
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he was reelected last
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2014 previously served 10 years as a
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judge in Jefferson district and circuit
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courts as an assistant Jefferson County
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attorney and as a partner in private
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practice with his farm Parker and
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O’Connell mike is a Louisville native
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he’s a graduate of st. Xavier High
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School Xavier University in Cincinnati
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and the University of Notre Dame School
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of Law Mike and his wife Ellen
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celebrated their 46th wedding
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anniversary in June they have three
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children
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Annie Michael and Matt and two
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grandchildren Emily and drew Mike was
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given the out excuse me
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he serves as an ex officio member of the
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restorative justice Louisville Board and
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is also a board member of the Louisville
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Bar Association he also serves on the
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Kentucky Children’s horn the board of
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the Kentucky Children’s Home Corporation
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excuse me mr. O’Connell has previously
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served as a KVA bar governor as a board
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member of the Louisville Metro Human
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Relations Commission the Little Sisters
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of the Poor beacon house Catholic
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Charities in the Jefferson County
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Juvenile Justice Commission Mike was
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named outstanding County Attorney the
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year at the 2017 Kentucky prosecutors
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conference he’s also the 2017 recipient
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of the center for women and families
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public service award
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brent de Ackerson was first elected as
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the 26th district councilman in 2008 and
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was reelected in 2012 and again in 2016
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brent represents neighborhoods in the
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urban services district which include
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Avondale Bonaire Bonaire estates
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Brookhaven Highgate Springs klondike’s
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acres Melbourne Heights Medill estates
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midlane park and Roselawn he also
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represents several areas and
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unincorporated Jefferson County
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including Big Springs Garden
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Breckinridge estates Bonaire part hikes
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point court Springs Montclair Villa
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orchard Manor and The Enclave he also
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represents the cities of Meadow View
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Estates norborne estates Wellington and
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part of Saint Matthews in 2018 Brent’s
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serve as the chair of Metro councils
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government oversight audit and ethics
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committee and is a member of the Budget
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Committee
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Brent ISM made of Louisville Ian also
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while in high school he was recognized
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as Kentucky governor scholar he received
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his Bachelor of Arts degree from the
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University of Louisville of the Lewis
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Sikh esselman Award for outstanding
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service to the political science
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department
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brent is a graduate of the university of
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akron college of law as a law student he
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he served as class representative to the
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student Bar Association it was the
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regional winner that American Bar
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Association’s negotiation competition
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brent began his practice as a clerk for
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the Summit County Ohio Court of Common
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Pleas his first jury trials with the
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city of Akron public defender’s office
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he presently practices with the Ackerson
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law office where he focuses on business
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and employment matters wills trusts in
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probate matters and personal injury
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matters in 2011 brent was the recipient
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of the gary Gupton Community Award for
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his part in helping to complete the new
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Down’s syndrome of Louisville facility
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the only facility of its kind of United
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States which cares to the needs of
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individuals with Down’s syndrome and
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their families Brent and his family are
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residents of Browns Lane
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please welcome our debate participants
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today
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[Applause]
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and now whilst begin the debate in the
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order determined by a coin toss each
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candidate will give an opening comment
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for up to five minutes mr. O’Connell has
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won that coin toss as timekeeper I will
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warn the candidates when they have one
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minute and 15 seconds remaining in their
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statements following these in the same
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order each candidate may ask the other
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candidate a question following these
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questions we will take questions from
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our audience at the conclusion program
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each candidate will given up to two
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minutes to make a closing statement with
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these rules in place I am now going to
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ask mr. O’Connell to give his opening
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statement thank you Thank You mr.
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Ackerson I feel like I’m up in a jury
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trial here ladies and gentlemen of the
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forum thank thank you members of the
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forum for hosting this event for us
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today I am Michael Kyle and I want to
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continue working as your Jefferson
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County Attorney for one simple and
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important reason I love my job I love
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the law the law for me has been a cop
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calling for a long time the foundation I
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received at places like st. X High
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School Xavier University in the
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University of Notre Dame School of Law
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grounded me in faith and compelled me to
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serve that daily service that relentless
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effort to do good lifts people up and
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changes their lives for the better those
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impacts are often out of the public’s
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view a safety plan for domestic violence
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victim winning a child support award so
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that a working mother can keep heat on
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in the winter or beating a telecom giant
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in court to open the doors to Google
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Fiber I feel good knowing that each day
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we have made a difference I love coming
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in every day and tackling the most
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difficult issues that our city faces
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suit up and show up I tell lawyers that
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work for me turning to those issues I
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like to conduct a little experiment
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right now if you don’t mind if you know
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a family member a friend
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a neighbor a co-worker or others who
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have struggled with addiction please
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raise your hand look at that amazing
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even among this group sitting in one of
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our city’s finest restaurants I’d say
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roughly 98% of the people in this room
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raised your hand if you did not you are
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fortunate but your numbers are dwindling
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drugs and the opioid crisis fueled the
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bulk of gun violence in our city our
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youth are killing each other over the
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opportunity to sell drugs to our youth
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just this weekend I received the latest
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plea for help a mother and I’ll call her
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Jane shared her story of how her son had
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experimented with oxycodone as a
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teenager he’s in his mid-20s now locked
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up for stealing to fund his substance
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use
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Jane finished her email to me by saying
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quote I never thought I would say this
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but thank you for fighting to keep him
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in jail in the quote and what mother
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should have to make that comment to a
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County Attorney Jane looks to jail
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because she’s looking to interrupt her
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son’s addiction that thought has made
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the Jefferson County Jail for those of
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you that don’t know the largest detox
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facility in the state of Kentucky and we
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couldn’t say that 10 or 15 years ago
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could we you and I both know we cannot
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jail our way out of this crisis but it’s
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a path to recovery now for some people
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so I’ve pushed for more use of KC’s law
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which some of you may have heard of
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named for young Casey wethington up in
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Covington who died of a hair and overt
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heroin overdose Casey’s law allows
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parents and families to use the leverage
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of the court system to force a loved one
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into treatment outside of jail we
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created a step-by-step website about the
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law and found funding for a new advocate
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to help families through the process in
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addition helping those who struggle with
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addiction I’ve sought to hold those
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responsible for this
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accountable drug distributors flooded
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our community with pain pills and
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failing to monitor or halt suspicious
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orders these companies bigger than
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Google bigger than Amazon have profited
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off this epidemic to such a degree that
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fines of a hundred and fifty million
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dollars to them is just the cost of
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doing business
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so I push for Louisville Metro to sue
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the distributors for the harm they have
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cost Louisville is now leader in this
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fight and I’m presently one of just 10
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people in the United States that is
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representing the hundreds of cities
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states and territories that have joined
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in this matter this plague doesn’t care
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how much money you have it doesn’t
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discriminate doesn’t care what zip code
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you live in doesn’t care what color you
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are doesn’t care about your occupation
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or your age I know firsthand that
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overdoses are the leading cause of death
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for Americans to think about this under
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the age of 50 in this country this
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plague took my beautiful boy Matt in the
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same way it has gutted hundreds of
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thousands of other families Matt was an
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Army veteran like me so I’m immensely
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proud that during my tenure in office
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we’ve among other things we’ve helped
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start the first-ever veteran’s treatment
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Court in Kentucky to fight for those who
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fought for us I said in the beginning
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that I love my job I love that I get to
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stand up for people we need help moms
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like Jane kids like Casey Weddington and
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my own son Matt I will continue my fight
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against this play creatively
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aggressively and passionately because
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it’s the only way to stop the violence
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in our streets and the loss of our young
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and I hope that what I bring to this
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office makes you proud of the County
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Attorney who stands before you today
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[Applause]
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thank Tom I don’t write out speeches in
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advance
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I like to speak from a heart because
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I’ve got a passion for the city I’ve
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been one of your outspoken Metro Council
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people for nearly a decade now
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for those of you know me I question
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authority I don’t care who you are in
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this town I’m willing to call you out if
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I think you’re doing wrong or not doing
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your job
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I look at our present situation and I
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say electing a County Attorney should
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not be about someone playing it safe
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when you elect public officials you
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expect results you expect them to do
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things and Wes I look around just over
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the last four years since the last
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12:50
Office the question that everyone has to
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ask themselves are things getting better
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or things getting worse are the murder
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rates on the rise is the heroin epidemic
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on the rise is youth violence on the
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rise we look around and all those things
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on the rise and so the question is what
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are we doing to address that these are
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all new 21st century problems that we
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cannot continue to address with eight
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with 1980s mentalities we’ve got to
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bring new ideas to the table we’ve got
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to try things have the willingness to
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try to do about concepts and some of
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those concepts might fail but even in
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failure we’re still doing good because
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we’re trying to change something that
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that’s not working if we continue to do
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the things we’re doing now we will
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continue to see results get worse for us
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and what I’m saying is this is you know
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the KC’s law advocate you know neither
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one of us can take credit for that a lot
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of folks press for KC’s law Mike’s
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office is implementing it we funded it
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over on Metro Council but it’s going to
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take much more than little steps like
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that we’ve got to change the way that
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we’re dealing with people in this town
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especially in light of the heroin
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epidemic and the other problems we’ve
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got to change the way that we’re dealing
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with people when it comes to misdemeanor
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crimes trying to get them back into the
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workforce and so what I want you to do
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is I want you to think about throughout
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this election is what ideas have you
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seen in the last four
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years that really made an impact on this
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community because again things are
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getting worse and what ideas have you
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heard here in the last six months during
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this very heated campaign that tells you
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there’s policy changes or there are
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there are approaches or new ideas that
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are coming to try to address this 21st
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century new problems because ultimately
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that’s you’re all choices if you’re
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content with the way things are
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you should not vote for me you should
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vote for Mike if you’re not content with
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the way things are and ultimately you
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feel that you should be trying to make a
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change we should be willing to press the
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envelope to come up with new solutions
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to these new problems then I’d like you
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to take a look at what I’m talking about
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and I appreciate all you being here
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today thank you thank you gentlemen and
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now in accordance with the rules of the
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debate since mr. O’Connell went first he
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may ask a question of mr. mr. Ackerson
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at this time let me ask you have you
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ever been a prosecutor or a judge or
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managed a large law office good question
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mr. O’Connell I appreciate that I know
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you have been a judge back in the I
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believe it was the 80s and 90s then you
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left after ten years to go back to
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private practice and I know that prior
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to your taking over the County
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Attorney’s Office that you would not run
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an office the size of four or 20
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employees also I have not been a judge
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and I’m not a prosecutor and in fact I
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think that is a benefit I come from the
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outside of the system if we’re gonna
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reform this system and come up with new
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ideas you should be looking from someone
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from the outside I’m uniquely qualified
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attorney a uniquely qualified public
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policy maker who’s willing to address
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setting in motion the changes that we
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need ultimately the office runs the
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County Attorney’s not going to court
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every day we all know that mr. O’Connell
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setting policy has his head of the
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Criminal Division seeing her today
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he sets policy for her than two
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to her departments the head of his civil
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two divisions sitting here today he sets
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policy format to to handle and direct
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down to his his departments it’s much
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like the mayor the mayor is not an
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expert at paving roads you get the right
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people under you and what what it has
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the greatest ability do though is set
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policy does his side here’s how we’re
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gonna deal with people you know we need
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to stop locking up people for stupid
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things and start working with them
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cleaning up their records to get him
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reemployed we need to reserve jail space
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right now I understand last week we just
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opened up the space above the courthouse
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again that’s a fire hazard it’s illegal
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it’s a disaster waiting to happen but at
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the end of the day we’ve got to do it
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because we keep locking up people for
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stupid reasons the question is
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ultimately is does this town want to
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spend 400 300 million dollars on
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building a new jail or should we put
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that to better use around here and start
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addressing our jail overcrowding problem
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and preserve the space we have now I can
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think of a heck of a lot better things
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to do with three or four hundred million
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dollars to make this town better than
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build a new jail so but you are correct
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I have not been a judge and I have not
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been a prosecutor and I’m proud of that
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and I think that that makes me uniquely
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qualified to bring the changes needed to
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the office at hand thank you
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and now pursuant to those same rules you
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may ask a question of mr. O’Connell mr.
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eckers Mike I want to ask you about what
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I consider sort of an ethical problem
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with the office and that is four years
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ago the colonel told you that your
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pressure on your employees to donate to
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your campaigns they consider it
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political patronage
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since then though they told you to stop
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but since then you’ve amassed over
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another hundred thousand dollars as of
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December this year for your campaign
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from your employees who are paid with
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taxpayer dollars I’ve said that it’s
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unethical I’ve said that I won’t do that
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I’ll put it into that your daughter and
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he’s running for certain Court judge
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she’s even announced that she will not
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take money from County Attorney
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employees why do you continue to do it
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when it puts a black eye on the
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political system is the question why
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continue
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yes okay just want to make sure first of
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all it’s not an ethical violation that
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he was so falsely stated it secondly you
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know I was an assistant county attorney
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years ago and with a great staff there
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and a great staff that we have now I’m
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blessed every day to have great people
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working around me both on the
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prosecution side and on the civil side
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I am honored that people think enough of
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the way we run the office the work that
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we have done the initiatives that we
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have started in the faith they have in
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me and the office that they would
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contribute to my campaign I do not ask
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people for political contributions I do
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not do that if they choose to give I
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will accept it I’ve done it throughout
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my time as County Attorney and I’m
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honored that they do that and and I’m
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going to continue to do that if they
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wish to give so you’re gratuitous
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comment about my daughter who’s running
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for Circuit Court judge not taking
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contributions from County Attorney’s
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well that’s a you know that’s sort of a
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silly question because obviously as a
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circuit court judge she’s not going to
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preside if she’s elected over anything
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in connection with my office and she’s
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made that decision and I congratulate
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her for it so but I’ve got great people
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sitting in this room that have
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contributed to my campaign some of the
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finest lawyers I have ever had the
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privilege of being associated with or
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sitting in this room today and they
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support me with everything they do every
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day and when I run for election
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re-election they support me financially
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as well and I’m honored that they think
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enough of this office and the work that
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they do that they wanted to continue so
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they yes that’s why I accept
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and now we will accept some questions
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from our audience members and mr. dan
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Hartley Jews on our board will read
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those to the to whoever they’re directed
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to and there’s the microphone I believe
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it is dan yes okay a lot of questions so
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we’ll go we’ll go through them as
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quickly as we can and as efficiently as
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we can a lot of questions having to do
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with jail overcrowded issues
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catch-and-release
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is the phrase I’ve seen several times
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there’s not enough room in the jails to
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keep people in there
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you’ve both touched on that in the
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opening remarks a little bit but could
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you expound on that a little bit maybe
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both of you on just a question of not
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having enough room to incarcerate people
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would keep them incarcerated we can go
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in the same order
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all right I’ll respond I won the coin
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toss but unlike the NFL if you win the
21:45
coin toss here today you don’t get to
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choose whether you’re going to defer to
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the second half you have to go first so
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we’ll keep that that order going that’s
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a great question
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most people in this room don’t know this
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but the I mean mr. actually would know
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about the budgets out of it that it’s
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about a 60 million dollar an annual
22:03
revenue commitment by Louisville Metro
22:06
to the jail Metro corrections our our
22:11
Corrections our jail is certified for
22:15
seventeen hundred and ninety three beds
22:18
we get weekly and monthly what they call
22:21
pop sheets from Corrections that tell us
22:24
the the population seems to hover all
22:27
the time at about 2000 to 2100 when it
22:30
gets above I think 2100 the director
22:33
decides to try to open space above the
22:36
old the old police the old jail above
22:38
the police headquarters but I’ve said
22:41
this many times and I learned this early
22:44
on that somebody once told me that jails
22:48
are for people that you’re afraid of not
22:50
for who you’re mad at and that is so
22:53
true particularly in today’s society
22:56
so we have worked very hard in my office
23:01
to put revenue into people being an
23:04
arraignment court to do look at
23:06
alternatives to jail incarceration on
23:11
bonds so that we don’t have this
23:13
situation going on in as I’m I mentioned
23:16
in my opening comments the jail is the
23:18
largest detox center in the state of
23:20
Kentucky
23:21
it’s the largest detox center in the
23:23
state of Kentucky and on bonds bonds are
23:28
have received a lot of attention over
23:30
especially recently but we work off
23:34
pretrial services assessment there’s a
23:36
risk scale I’m somebody coming back
23:38
there’s a risk scale and whether or not
23:40
they may may or may not reoffended
23:41
cetera et cetera and we have
23:43
alternatives to incarceration which are
23:45
employed a lot a lot but when you have
23:49
someone who is truly dangerous to the
23:50
community in my opinion you don’t send
23:54
them home under home incarceration if
23:57
they’ve been charged with murder if
23:58
they’ve confessed a murder if they
24:00
covered up the body for two days you
24:03
don’t send that person home on home
24:04
incarceration so yes I object to that
24:07
sort of abuse of discretion when it
24:10
comes to reviewing cases but we’re
24:13
always looking for creative ways to do
24:15
things to try to keep the jail
24:17
population as low as possible eighty
24:20
percent of people in jail are held there
24:22
pretrial only 20% of them are serving a
24:26
sentence and the state has the
24:28
obligation to pick up the prisoners that
24:30
are committed to them in 45 days well
24:32
they don’t always do that so we have
24:34
jail we have those type of folks that
24:36
are in Corrections as well and I’ve gone
24:37
way over my time okay
24:39
I would appropriate amount of time off
24:41
that’s all right
24:43
listen to what we just heard the office
24:46
is dedicating resources to arraignments
24:49
and to other things to try to deal with
24:52
jail population problems we’ve been
24:55
hearing about it for years what we’re
24:57
trying is not working the reality is
24:59
this is as we consistently open up the
25:03
old jail above the courthouse again a
25:06
fire hazard there’s no sprinkler systems
25:08
in there in my
25:09
illegals a disaster waiting to happen it
25:11
costs this city three hundred fifty
25:13
thousand dollars a month to operate that
25:15
that’s about four million dollars a year
25:17
that we keep going over you know so the
25:20
problem is is clear if eighty percent of
25:24
the people in there for pretrial
25:25
detention Mike’s right in the sense that
25:27
we do not want to let murderers out but
25:30
what we’ve got to start doing is freeing
25:32
up that bed space so we can keep
25:33
murderers in those people that Mike
25:35
talked about that we’re mad at you know
25:37
we need to be working with those people
25:39
to get them out of there quicker so that
25:41
we don’t end up in a situation where
25:42
we’ve got to build a four hundred
25:43
million dollar jail simple as that
25:46
it’s a problem that’s been existing for
25:48
years and there hasn’t been a solution
25:51
post yet it’s time for new approaches to
25:54
this office regarding that because I’m
25:56
petrified from the Metro Council side of
25:58
already you know pensions crisis and I
26:00
think our budget is getting tighter and
26:02
tighter and we’ve got to figure out how
26:05
we’re going to put our priorities in the
26:06
city to make sure that we do what we
26:08
need to do and that starts with the
26:11
crime problems that we’re facing in this
26:13
jail so thank you next question please
26:17
Dan yeah this is a question targeted to
26:21
both of you guys I suppose but it has to
26:27
do with Brett you on your campaign
26:29
Facebook site yesterday posted a video
26:32
of Michael Connell making comments on TV
26:35
regarding the release of names of
26:40
teenagers who alleged they were raped by
26:44
LMPD officers back some what a year or
26:48
so ago the question is your point on
26:51
Facebook is that that’s a risky thing to
26:55
do to suggest to the teenagers mr.
26:58
O’Connell I think your comment was that
27:00
it’s a matter of leveling the playing
27:03
field so if you guys could both comment
27:05
on on that issue well let me be clear on
27:08
that matter I want to clear that that
27:10
either neither I nor the city want any
27:13
abuse victim’s identity to be made
27:15
public
27:17
and I said that within five or six hours
27:21
of the comment that he’s the questioners
27:24
referring to you know we work tirelessly
27:27
every day in protecting victims and
27:32
sexual assault physical assault and
27:35
other things this issue on whether or
27:39
not the names of these individuals who
27:41
have filed these complaints in our civil
27:43
courts and asking for money damages is
27:46
currently pending before the Circuit
27:48
Court and that judge our judges will
27:51
make a decision on whether or not those
27:56
names are able to be disclosed
28:02
interestingly the former counsel it was
28:07
also on the Metro council and president
28:09
counsel before he got disqualified
28:11
because of ethical reasons and who
28:13
signed mister ackerson’s filing papers
28:16
for this office showed up at my office
28:21
the day after he filed the suit with the
28:24
supposed confidential letter demanding
28:26
six million dollars to settle the case
28:28
before anybody and even been served
28:31
in the suit he showed up to lie in his
28:33
pockets as a member of Metro Council and
28:39
he was not able to do that because a
28:40
court here stopped him from doing that
28:44
we have an action emotion pending right
28:47
now that uh against mr. a christen and
28:51
mr. Yates who are also in Circuit Court
28:54
and we have alleged that they have an
28:57
ethical they violated the rules of
28:59
professional conduct not the Metro
29:01
Ethics Commission the rules of
29:02
professional conduct for again trying to
29:05
line their pockets with money in a case
29:07
in which they are opposite the
29:09
government for which they serve so but
29:12
to reiterate neither I nor the city are
29:16
asking for the names of these victims to
29:19
be disclosed at that’ll be a decision
29:21
that the circuit court
29:26
very interesting that we got off topic
29:28
big town there the reality is this is I
29:31
didn’t say what Mike said it was a
29:33
newscast that we posted that he spoke to
29:36
the media coming out of court they were
29:38
his comments his comments were strong
29:40
they were clear don’t take my word for
29:43
it go watch the newscast you know he
29:46
made it clear that he wanted to level
29:49
the playing fields the way he called it
29:50
he thought it was only appropriate that
29:53
if the officers were named these
29:55
officers who committed heinous rape of
29:58
children were named that he thought that
30:00
these these victims because they were
30:01
over the 18 now that their name should
30:03
also be out there those are his words
30:04
not mine
30:05
I’m not mincing words I’m not chopping
30:07
his words up go listen to his own words
30:09
now he might after the fact publicly
30:13
changed his position after he got back
30:14
to the office and everyone said Mike
30:16
what the heck did you just say I can’t
30:18
believe that you believe that but it’s
30:20
one thing to retract your position it’s
30:23
what you say and those are his words and
30:25
again the fact that we’re here today
30:27
he’s telling you well it’ll be up to the
30:29
court to decide if these these folks I
30:31
don’t see any motions filed by Mike to
30:33
to say let me keep this secret as far as
30:36
their names and identities let’s deal
30:37
with this case protect victims and
30:39
that’s what we should be doing because
30:42
what happened in this town makes me
30:45
ashamed she’d make all of us ashamed
30:48
kids were hurt and at some level there
30:52
was a cover-up at some level and the
30:55
hope is that someday we’ll get to that
30:56
level if folks in this government
30:58
don’t try to sweep it under the rug with
31:00
confidential settlements or or whatever
31:02
else because we deserve the truth this
31:05
town needs to clean up its act and so my
31:09
hope is that that we’ll get to that
31:12
truth but we’ll see but ultimately that
31:15
video that we put on Facebook speaks for
31:16
itself don’t take my word for it don’t
31:19
take Mike’s work for it go listen to it
31:21
and take your own ears words for it
31:23
Thanks
31:25
next question please dan yeah next
31:28
question sort of a two-part question
31:29
having to do with with gang issues
31:32
number one in your current positions in
31:35
terms of public service could you each
31:37
talk a little
31:38
about what you’ve seen and what you
31:40
maybe have tried to do to address the
31:43
gang issue and number two your thoughts
31:47
on the recent gang related legislation
31:50
that has been presented making
31:52
recruitment of gang members a tougher
31:54
crime according to literature’s about
32:04
33,000 gangs in the United States of
32:07
America and the average age of gang
32:10
members is between 15 and 24 this in
32:19
this jurisdiction they’re not never has
32:21
been to my understanding a indictment
32:25
with respect to so-called gang related
32:29
activity the the police and the
32:36
administration know who the worst actors
32:38
are in this community or at least they
32:40
you know they have assistance from the
32:42
FBI and others and they know that but
32:46
here’s my feeling about this legislation
32:51
the major problems we have in our
32:53
community is the opioid epidemic and
32:58
violence those are the major problems we
33:02
have there is nothing in this bill that
33:08
does anything to address those issues
33:12
which in many instances are the root
33:15
cause of why young people get involved
33:18
with gangs the poverty home issues drug
33:28
issues the root causes of this are the
33:34
things that money needs to be spent
33:35
towards doing the I think the the
33:42
financial impact on the proposed
33:44
legislation is 19 and a half or 20
33:46
million dollars where
33:48
I think that money could be used in
33:53
better ways this legislation if it’s
33:59
just a prop to pass a piece of
34:06
legislation that doesn’t go or do
34:08
anything toward the root causes of these
34:11
issues and runs the risk of profiling
34:19
further despair a treatment further of
34:25
young people in this community I would
34:30
not be in favor of it if it saves lives
34:32
if there’s anybody that can demonstrate
34:35
that these have I’m all about saving
34:38
lives
34:39
whatever we do if it can be pointed out
34:42
that saving this this will save lives
34:45
and for this reason or that reason that
34:47
I can point to it I think it would then
34:51
be something worth looking at but our
34:56
office doesn’t prosecute felony gun
35:00
crimes anyway the Commonwealth
35:02
Attorney’s Office does but I think we
35:04
need to focus more attention on the root
35:07
causes of what’s causing gang violence
35:09
and and in this community and not on a
35:15
piece of legislation which you should
35:17
watch it because watch and see if
35:20
anybody gets indicted on these under
35:22
this statute pay close attention to that
35:26
we’re gonna lighten the tension and say
35:28
this well said Mike I agree with him and
35:32
that is this is is this gang violence
35:35
bill is ridiculous it’s it’s again the
35:39
1980s mentality to address the problems
35:43
of a 21st century they don’t work and
35:45
that’s why we’re continue to be in this
35:46
this spiral were in now I think that
35:50
that Mike is also correct in this sense
35:51
because we’ve been talking about this
35:52
for a while I’ve been talking about it
35:55
for years on Metro Council and that is
35:56
if we want to get to the root of our
35:59
problems the drug problems the gang
36:02
problems the reality of this situation
36:04
is is we’ve got to start investing money
36:07
on the front end of that problem think
36:10
of it like our health and health care
36:11
insurance you know ten years ago if you
36:14
went to Humana and said I want to some
36:16
pre into medicine they’d say it’s not
36:17
covered today they’ll pay for you to go
36:19
the gym if you can prove you’re going
36:21
because they recognize from a business
36:22
model a little money invested on the
36:24
front end saves a lot on the back end
36:25
what we need to be doing is this folks
36:28
are joining gangs because they don’t
36:30
have any hope otherwise go out to some
36:34
troubled areas look around and with
36:36
those those families live in and with
36:38
those kids see every day if we don’t
36:41
give them opportunities we don’t give
36:44
them hope we don’t help them to succeed
36:48
when they’re young and I’m talking grade
36:50
school folks grade school is working yet
36:54
because we base prison beds the next 20
36:56
years based upon third grade reading
36:57
scores we’ve got to be investing in
36:59
these youth because that’s the
37:00
battleground you know we’ve got to give
37:04
them a chance to say you know what I’ve
37:06
got options other than the gang because
37:08
let’s face it if you’ve got no options
37:10
and you see no hope for the future and
37:12
all you see is the block that you live
37:14
on and your round the violence and the
37:16
gangs but you see they’ve got money and
37:18
they can afford to do these things not
37:20
to mention the pressures that come from
37:23
living in those neighborhoods where the
37:24
gangs around you either you get it get
37:26
it give the group or do the outsider
37:28
those are the problems so Mike and I are
37:31
in agreement on that and that is this
37:32
community needs to put focus financially
37:35
on empowering youth now where this
37:37
office comes into play is how we’re
37:39
dealing with us with those youth what
37:41
are we doing to help them versus jail
37:43
them what are we doing to help their
37:44
parents versus jail them because at the
37:46
end of the day the youth part of the
37:48
youth succeeding is not only the
37:49
program’s investing money but it’s
37:50
trying to help their parents do better
37:52
in life you know get them employed get
37:55
their their records cleaned up you know
37:57
most misdemeanor crimes are driven by
37:59
circumstances it could be the drugs that
38:02
caused them to steal it could be the
38:05
fact that they’re unemployed that causes
38:07
them to steal or deuce or break the law
38:09
that’s circumstance driven and we’ve got
38:11
to work with those people because at the
38:13
end of the day for those youth to sick
38:15
seed we’ve got to help their parents
38:17
succeed also I hope that answers your
38:20
question next question please dan yeah
38:25
have a few questions here that are
38:27
targeted at one or the other but
38:29
certainly both of you guys are
38:30
encouraged to to answer it and respond
38:34
this one is specifically to you mr.
38:36
Ackerson why were you the only Metro
38:39
Council Democrat to vote against the
38:41
appointment of dr. Ricky Jones to the
38:44
citizens Commission on public
38:46
accountability yes I was the only Metro
38:50
Council Democrat to vote against that
38:51
appointment there were a number of Metro
38:54
Council Democrats who did not vote on
38:57
that issue as I said that evening you
39:01
know if you just go back and watch the
39:02
tapes you get online I talked to two dr.
39:05
Jones and explain my position I did not
39:07
in my time at that time based upon the
39:10
controversy of that board the way things
39:13
were handled did not feel it was the
39:15
right appointment at that time and it’s
39:16
not easy knowing you know my vote I knew
39:20
where that you know I was one of the
39:21
last people vote I knew where the votes
39:22
were at the easy thing to do is when you
39:24
say well the other side has the votes
39:27
I’ll just vote with them that’s the easy
39:29
thing to do I’ve never taken the easy
39:31
road you know and I know that that that
39:34
might have upset dr. Jones I told him
39:36
that night explain my position on the
39:38
record and then went to him afterwards
39:40
shook his hand and told him there was
39:42
anything personal congratulating him on
39:43
his victory but if in the day I did not
39:46
feel that that was the right appointment
39:48
at that time it wasn’t anything personal
39:51
it wasn’t anything racially driven it
39:54
was me having to make a tough choice and
39:57
I made that choice knowing that folks
40:00
like Mike and some other folks this room
40:02
have been critical of me on this
40:03
campaign trail trying to make a racial
40:05
issue out of it and it hasn’t been so I
40:08
stand behind that vote as I said I
40:10
explained before I’ll be more than happy
40:11
to sit down any time with dr. Jones and
40:13
and and talk about other issues that we
40:16
can work together to advance the causes
40:18
of the city would you like to respond
40:22
mr. O’Connell I would just say that your
40:25
vote was embarrassing and shameful
40:28
and I trust that something like that
40:32
would never happen again but it seems to
40:34
be consistent with some of your votes on
40:38
council especially mr. actresses touted
40:43
his accomplishments as a legislator
40:47
council member and he doesn’t really
40:51
have many because if you heard specifics
40:54
he had already told you by now but he
40:56
was successful this time there’s one
40:58
he’s been very successful and he wanted
41:03
to look at the whole person we’re
41:04
talking about here he and several of his
41:07
colleagues on Metro Council voted with
41:09
the nine Republicans on Metro Council to
41:14
kill the Prospect Cove affordable
41:17
housing project which it was approved by
41:20
unanimous vote of the Planning and
41:22
Zoning Commission and here’s how
41:24
successful he was shortly after that
41:28
happened I got a I got a letter from the
41:33
United States Department of Justice
41:34
Civil Rights Division advising me as the
41:38
legal as the lawyer for this community
41:40
that the Civil Rights Division of the
41:42
Department of Justice was initiating an
41:44
investigation into Metro Council that is
41:49
now cost and is going to cost taxpayers
41:51
thousands of dollars we’ve had to hire
41:53
counsel to represent Metro Council
41:56
himself that boat he succeeded in doing
41:59
that and bringing the Department of
42:00
Justice Civil Rights Division into this
42:02
community for the first time that I can
42:04
ever recall ever happening here yeah mr.
42:09
action if you can just reply to gist the
42:10
prospects just the Prospect Cove number
42:13
one is shame on Mike for being critical
42:16
of me to that that I might vote with
42:18
Republicans shame on you this is not a
42:20
you know that’s part of the problem with
42:22
our system you know that people can’t
42:25
work across party lines number two is I
42:28
stand behind that vote
42:29
you know his office was involved in the
42:31
process also it’s not been my boat that
42:34
brought the Justice Department in if
42:35
someone wants to allege there was a
42:36
problem they can allege that that
42:38
Justice Department can come in
42:39
I stand behind my vote on that because
42:42
at the end the day if we are going to
42:44
extend housing out and I have been a
42:47
huge proponent of affordable housing
42:49
huge championing that the the full
42:53
funding of the affordable housing trust
42:54
fund you go talk to the folks at cloud
42:55
about that but at the end of the day I
42:58
stand behind that vote because this is
42:59
why if we are going to to put that
43:02
project being the first project of its
43:03
kind into place it has to be a home run
43:05
there can’t be any guesses or if we
43:09
build it they will come type situations
43:11
because if it fails it will kill the
43:13
longevity and the potential of any of
43:15
the other of those projects taking place
43:16
in the East End this project as I said
43:20
on the record and I’ve said since then
43:21
no bus lines no jobs a number of other
43:24
factors that came into play and so
43:27
what’s interesting is up into the flaw
43:30
suit to the feds come in mike has been
43:32
our attorney on this and I find
43:33
interesting that that it would be
43:34
critical of what he’s given legal advice
43:36
on advance you would think that as the
43:38
attorney you would have no comment on
43:40
this whatsoever but politically he wants
43:42
to try to make hay over this and so I
43:43
get it go look at the record I’ve been
43:46
very clear about where I voted the way I
43:48
did it I stand behind that next question
43:51
please dan next question again as this
43:54
is to mr. O’Connell but certainly both
43:56
of you guys can can reply question mr.
44:02
O’Connell is that for years the practice
44:04
and in terms of getting contributions
44:07
from employees has been something that’s
44:09
been questioned and employees
44:12
historically have expressed concerns
44:14
about being pressured the question is
44:16
why not just stop it I think we’ve
44:19
already asked and answered that question
44:20
with all due respect understood
44:23
questions already been asked and
44:24
answered well I’ll answer that question
44:25
you if you don’t want to and you know
44:29
I’ve got my previous answer to the
44:32
question of I’ll adopt that as my answer
44:34
to that question so you can keep going
44:36
thank you a simple question here is are
44:40
these employee contributions required or
44:42
not you know in 2014 there was a primary
44:46
for this county attorney’s office okay
44:49
there was no general no one challenged
44:50
in the General
44:51
you know but a simple look at here you
44:54
know this is mr. O’Connell’s general
44:57
election finance report 30-day post so
45:00
this is this is essentially 30 days
45:01
after the general election when he had
45:03
no competition he’s listed three
45:06
individuals on here one of them a County
45:09
Attorney for $1,000 another one for 500
45:12
now what’s interesting that $500
45:13
contribution came in after the election
45:15
was over and then another one for a
45:18
hundred I’ve got a stack here from that
45:20
general election where essentially 39
45:22
employees gave over $7,500 for an
45:26
election that was not taking place why
45:28
why would an employee of the the County
45:31
Attorney’s Office give a $500 check when
45:33
their boss is already won election why
45:36
would an employer that office give a
45:37
thousand-dollar check when their boss
45:38
had already won election there was
45:39
nothing else there was no one
45:41
challenging I didn’t file against Mike
45:42
until December 15th of 2017 had no
45:46
election why are these people doing this
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if patronage is not still around if it
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doesn’t stink of if I don’t give the
45:53
required amount during each cycle that I
45:56
might lose my job or might not be
45:57
promoted it makes no sense whatsoever
45:59
now you can say that it’s because I’m a
46:01
great guy and they love it
46:03
but that just doesn’t make sense and
46:06
this is the black guy on our political
46:08
system that we face we faced it once
46:09
before pop Malone it’s continuing today
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if you’d like to briefly address that
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mr. O’Connell no Dan please next
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question next question would either of
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you advocate for securing the border to
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curb the flow of drugs and gangs into
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this country and to perhaps address the
46:29
drug problem we have here and if so how
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would you like to secure that border
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yeah I’ll take it
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that’s certainly not anything within the
46:46
jurisdiction of the County Attorney’s
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Office but now tell you what I didn’t
46:53
see that one coming I didn’t see that
46:56
one coming
46:58
that is such a complex issue you can’t
47:00
cover that in something like this but I
47:03
certainly think that our president has
47:05
posed some of the most ridiculous
47:07
proposals to deal with both the border
47:11
and and the other terrible things that
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he’s done towards daca and immigrants
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that means so much to this community but
47:19
other communities around the United
47:20
States
47:21
I guess he’s now talking about sending
47:24
National Guard units and soldiers there
47:26
from our military to do things so we are
47:32
we her a nation certainly nobody wants
47:35
criminals you know running across the
47:38
board of the United States and
47:40
committing crimes I mean that’s common
47:42
sense we don’t want that but you know
47:44
that’s not what happens in the fallout
47:46
that the people that are damaged and
47:47
injured families that are torn people
47:51
that are being picked up here and sent
47:53
back to Mexico who are solid citizens
47:57
and have been here for years and years
47:59
that’s not what this country is about so
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you know it’s you know there’s there’s a
48:10
proper way to enforce those federal laws
48:12
perhaps as congressman Yarmuth was here
48:15
he could discuss it as well but those
48:18
are just some of my comments and I hope
48:21
the lunacy ceases on this issue this is
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gonna be the second time today they will
48:27
break the ice Mike you’re absolutely
48:29
correct let’s get on it some good
48:32
questions next question I’m sorry next
48:37
question I guess it can be addressed to
48:39
mr. O’Connell but to both of you can
48:41
respond and that is could you talk a
48:43
little bit about your role in terms of
48:46
restorative justice I I can talk a lot
48:50
of
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my role resort of justice I am one first
48:54
things I did in the office was to work
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on a committee that was formed to
48:59
introduce restorative justice practices
49:01
in his community specifically the
49:04
project was going to be introduced into
49:06
juvenile court and for those of you that
49:08
don’t know what RJ is as we call it it’s
49:10
when the victim and the perpetrator
49:12
actually get together by agreement to
49:16
discuss a resolution of the case and
49:19
mutually which is an extraordinary
49:22
extraordinary concept that has been used
49:26
worldwide but we started it in juvenile
49:29
court and I had to give permission for
49:31
that to be in juvenile court as a
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process I serve on the restorative
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justice board as part of that our goal
49:40
has always been to try to take it into
49:42
adult court and we we did that with a
49:46
pilot project with to the district court
49:48
judges currently and we’re working to
49:51
put as many of those adult cases in the
49:53
pipeline as we can but in r.j.
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Louisville restorative justice
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Louisville now is a 501 C 3 corporation
50:03
so I generously solicit your interesting
50:06
contributions if you want to help him
50:07
out but I’ve been involved with RJ since
50:09
almost the day I stepped into the office
50:13
mr. eckers yes great question because of
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this we’re sort of justice if you want
50:19
to learn more about it this Friday the 2
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to the main people which is judged basic
50:25
and Tom Williams probably attorney here
50:28
in town with Stoll keenon they’ll be
50:30
speaking at the earth and Spirit Center
50:33
there’ll be dinner and then from 7:00 to
50:35
about 8:30 they’ll be talking about
50:36
where sort of justice Mike does serve on
50:40
the board as an ex officio person by
50:41
virtue of his office and Mike did give
50:45
permission for the the pilot project to
50:48
take place it could have taken place if
50:50
we hadn’t given permission but the
50:52
problem is this we’re sort of justice is
50:54
a phenomenal concept that we need to be
50:55
embracing we need to be empowering and
50:57
we need to be fun we need to be funding
50:59
now what at present it maybe makes up
51:02
about
51:03
fifteen 20 percent of the juvenile
51:05
matters so it hasn’t been expanded
51:07
enough there and it hasn’t been funded
51:10
you know we’ve got a lot of money that
51:12
comes in from drive safe Louisville and
51:13
other things that come into the county
51:15
attorney’s operating budget why aren’t
51:16
we taking that money and funding we’re
51:18
sort of justice so it can actually make
51:21
a bigger dent in things because again
51:23
things like we’re sort of justice and
51:25
these 21st century concepts are what we
51:28
need to attempt to try to stem the crime
51:30
problems that what we’ve been doing
51:32
hasn’t been helping we’ve got to come up
51:35
these new ideas and so restore of
51:37
justice is really an amazing concept
51:40
when you look at from originally I think
51:41
was from New Zealand they’ve had like a
51:43
sixty percent drop and recessives we’re
51:45
citizen ISM you know if I’m saying that
51:48
correctly I apologize a little
51:49
tongue-tied there but but it works and
51:52
we’ve got to be looking to other places
51:54
that have have led the charge we don’t
51:57
need to reinvent the wheel we just
51:58
needed to copy the wheel and we got to
52:00
have the willingness to do that and
52:01
we’ve got to put our money where our
52:03
mouth is and do that thank you
52:09
okay at this time in the program we have
52:12
approximately four minutes left so I’m
52:14
gonna ask the candidates in the same
52:16
order in which they gave their opening
52:17
statements to give their closing
52:19
statement each candidate has up to two
52:20
minutes and mr. O’Connell will go first
52:32
Thank You Tama mister Ackerson I want to
52:36
again thank everybody for being here
52:37
today it’s been a great conversation and
52:40
I hope that for those of you that aren’t
52:44
used to this kind of conversation I hope
52:45
that you learned something today I’m
52:51
going to simply say that campaigns
52:57
matter in this community candidates
53:02
matter and certainly votes matter but as
53:11
my friend Morgan mcGarvie says
53:14
frequently in elections have
53:15
consequences and this is this is a
53:24
office that as I said in my opening
53:28
remarks I love very much and I love very
53:31
much the people that work with me on a
53:33
daily basis we do really good work and
53:40
with limited assets when I was asked the
53:45
other day by a group what what’s the
53:47
biggest problem your office faces and I
53:49
said it’s a like most others in
53:52
government budget offices and trying to
53:55
retain good people that we hire this the
54:02
County Attorney’s Office became the
54:04
legal representative for all of metro
54:06
government when when the merger occurred
54:08
some of you would recall years ago the
54:10
Louisville City little hats own law
54:12
department and Fiscal Court Jefferson
54:14
County had the County Attorney’s Office
54:16
and when it merged the legislature
54:18
decided to expand the duties of the
54:22
county attorneys always exponentially so
54:24
we represent all of metro government the
54:27
council all of its members all of the
54:30
agencies we do the defense work we do
54:35
plaintiffs work on behalf that the city
54:39
is we’re doing with the opioid
54:40
litigation and we rep
54:43
and we operate in the hollow justice
54:47
that building historically has been the
54:50
second or third most busy building on a
54:53
daily basis in the entire state of
54:55
Kentucky and we do good work over there
54:58
under our responsibilities under ABA
55:01
standards is to seeks justice we are
55:03
supposed to be ministers of justice and
55:05
I think we have we’ve done that and we
55:07
can be proud of it brent has served on
55:15
the council as you mentioned and he
55:23
served as council member for district 26
55:26
and I’m not sure what legislation he’s
55:33
ever proposed of note in the 8 or 10
55:36
years said he’s been on council but I
55:38
want to share with you something he said
55:39
in a podcast last week about this office
55:45
and his work for the citizens he was
55:49
asked a question about whether or not if
55:51
he lost if he’d still remain in office
55:53
and he said yes if I don’t quote if I
55:58
don’t win this race then the people of
56:00
Metro Louisville to get to keep me on as
56:02
Metro 26 councilman so I like to say if
56:06
you if you think I’ve done a good job on
56:08
council vote me into the County
56:10
Attorney’s Office and let me reform that
56:12
office continuing and do a good job
56:17
there but this is the park if you don’t
56:21
like what I do on Metro Council you
56:23
should vote me into the County
56:25
Attorney’s Office and get me off Metro
56:27
Council what is that
56:33
those words speak volumes this isn’t you
56:41
know I’m tired of this job of which I
56:44
haven’t really excelled at so if you’re
56:47
gonna vote me out of council vote me for
56:49
56:51
can continue the good work
56:53
on behalf of the people in this
56:54
community so you do have a choice and
56:57
it’s a serious choice and I humbly ask
57:00
you I thank you for being here today and
57:03
I humbly ask you to consider me when you
57:06
go to the polls on May 22nd and thanks
57:09
very much well just before I start I’ll
57:18
quickly respond to the podcast like many
57:21
things you’re on the radio and I made a
57:22
joke you know a few of you laughed if
57:24
you didn’t at the end of the day if we
57:26
cannot make light of situations you know
57:29
you know I don’t want to be that person
57:31
you know yes I made a joke sort of
57:33
saying you know I’m qualifies what I was
57:35
talking about I said vote me and over
57:37
there you know so if you like me vote
57:38
for me you know I made the joke that
57:40
said if you don’t like me you know if
57:41
you don’t like my votes on Metro Council
57:43
you think I’m too progressive or to
57:45
democratic for you or too liberal for
57:47
you then vote me over you know to here
57:49
so you get rid of me and that was the
57:50
intent of that but as usual Mike wants
57:52
to take that out of context you know
57:55
let’s keep things in context and that is
57:57
this he’s right when he quotes Morgan
57:59
that says elections have consequences we
58:01
saw that nationally we’ve seen that a
58:04
number of other levels you know we have
58:06
elected Mike he was appointed first of
58:09
all to the office
58:11
so we’ve elect him twice to this office
58:14
and we’re back to our things getting
58:17
better are we content operating with the
58:21
status quo when Mike won four years ago
58:25
he gave a quote to the two WRB and he
58:29
said we’re gonna stay the course I think
58:30
things are going great we’ve stayed the
58:34
course and four years later things
58:36
aren’t going great the actions speak
58:39
louder than the words and that’s what
58:41
ultimately you’ve got to decide is you
58:44
know what are we gonna do are we willing
58:47
to take chances you know it’s not just
58:50
about saying you know we’re keeping the
58:52
lights on and we’re a lighthouse keeper
58:53
and you know it’s a it’s a crowded jail
58:55
system over there it’s a crowded
58:56
courthouse and we’re moving people
58:58
through that’s not cutting the mustard
59:01
anymore and you the taxpayers the
59:04
residents of this county should
59:05
be demanding more of your elected
59:07
officials if you elect me and I do not
59:10
follow through with my promises in four
59:12
years you should vote me out and bring
59:14
the next person in who can make a
59:16
difference and make change that’s what
59:18
politics is supposed to be about it’s
59:19
not about a job it’s not about a career
59:22
it’s about making a difference and
59:25
that’s what you should be looking for
59:27
and I hope that you will compare at the
59:29
Apple and the orange and I hope that you
59:31
will look to make a difference not for
59:33
yourself for your kids and for your
59:35
grandkids this office only gets voted on
59:38
every four years that’s 25 times in a
59:40
century do we have four years to waste
59:44
thank you for coming today and thank you
59:46
for your time
59:47
[Applause]
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[Music]
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you